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Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby edit the sad parts » Thu May 31, 19:24 2012

I am sure most of us are familiar with Anita Sarkeesian of Feminist Frequency, and all of the awesome videos she makes. She currently has a project up on Kickstarter to do an extensive(the biggest undertaking to date) video series on Tropes Vs. Women in Video Games. She has already reached her funding goal but has some awesome stretch goals that I would love to see her reach. Please check it out and if you have a couple of extra bucks kicking around feel free to donate. I will be giving $50.00 tomorrow when I get paid. I want that Zelda sticker!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby rowan » Thu May 31, 20:05 2012

Ooo, I really like the stretch goal video for "The Top 10 Most Common Defenses of Sexism in Games (and how to respond)". And classroom curriculum sounds really awesome. I'll kick in a bit too. That Zelda sticker is pretty sweet.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby Aum » Fri Jun 1, 17:14 2012

I support her, I just don't understand why it costs $20,000? Is that all studio rental time?
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby Sonic# » Fri Jun 1, 17:53 2012

This looks like a good project. I watched a few of her Tropes v. Women series, and it was well put. Video games and video game culture could use a similar intervention.

I support her, I just don't understand why it costs $20,000? Is that all studio rental time


She initially only asked for $6,000. Given the portion of the donations that would be garnished by kickstarter, that seems quite a reasonable amount for video production and sound production. She's been adding videos with every extra few thousand. I also have to assume that some of this is raising money that allows her to take time to research and make these videos; that can be a labor of love, but getting money from it up front can mean she puts more (and therefore better) work forward.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby androkguz » Sun Jun 3, 9:29 2012

Just like TvTropes "ruined" my life, so kind of did Anika. I can't really see media the same way anymore. And now I'm really excited to see her do the same to video games.

For most of the tropes, I see (or imagine) where she is coming from, but what is the "sexy sidekick"? I mean, what video games have a sexy sidekick? Because at the moment none comes to mind. At least none that I play.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby Sonic# » Sun Jun 3, 10:48 2012

It's very common in JRPGs, and somewhat common in other RPGs. Tifa from FF7 is a prime example, a main supporting character designed with large breasts and a slight frame. Others that come to mind easily:

Selphie (FF8)
KOS-MOS (Xenosaga)
Jessica (Dragon Quest VIII)
Aika (Skies of Arcadia)
Millenia (Grandia 2)
Miranda (Mass Effect 2 and 3)
Morrigan (Dragon Age: Origins)

It's less common outside RPGs, since other games are often less built around party or group interactions. Still, there are sexy sidekicks, among them Cortana (Halo series) and the assistant in every faction of Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby Snarky » Sun Jun 3, 11:39 2012

I saw some of her precious series, and I;m excited to see what I can learn from these new videos.

Has anyone played the Mass Effect games? I feel those are a pretty good example of a couple really well written female characters.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby androkguz » Sun Jun 3, 17:06 2012

I very much hope that we see the analisys done with respect to time. I'm really interested to see how much have the videogames changed (or not changed) in their history
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby Sonic# » Sun Jun 3, 20:49 2012

Androkguz, if you want a snack, I found this article interesting for the very broad historical argument that it tried to make, through a study of FPS avatars. If you don't have the patience to read all of it, at least look at the figures and then read the discussion at the end.

Most interesting finding, relevant to the topic:
81 percent of titles require a player to play a male avatar, and this shows no signs of decreasing (if anything, the reverse is true). Similarly the games where a Caucasian avatar is required remain firmly in the majority and examination of the trend in this over time shows no noticeable decline.


So according to this study, at least until very recently, things haven't been improving in the FPS genre as a whole.

Has anyone played the Mass Effect games? I feel those are a pretty good example of a couple really well written female characters.


Sure! I've played the first two. The characterization was pretty good in general, with great dialogue writing all around, as well as character arcs that tended not to reduce people to their gender roles. I mentioned it in the former post because the series likes its sexy female sidekicks, especially with the second and third game. Some of that is indistinguishable from a fan base that voices its attraction towards particular characters (Miranda and Liara foremost, you can probably think of a few others).
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby androkguz » Thu Jun 7, 6:39 2012

Before this topic goes into oblivion, I would like to break the two-other-responses-between-your-posts rule to say that Sonic's "snack" was awesome and really hitted the spot. Thanks Sonic
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian

Postby edit the sad parts » Sat Jun 9, 11:10 2012

Just an update on this. Anita has surpassed her reach goal by more than $10 000.00 in new pledges!!! Thank you to anyone here who donated or cross-posted. Since I last posted this, there has been a huge backlash to Anita's project. Apparently a bunch of gaming forums have vowed to "take her down" and have started campaigns of harassment. Including flagging her youtube videos as "terrorism", vandalizing her wiki and trying to get kickstarter to ban her project and defund it. You can read about it here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566 ... ames/posts
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby rowan » Sat Jun 9, 14:47 2012

I can't bring myself to click on the video in there. It makes me sick to my stomach that people are so vile against anyone who speaks up about gender issues in gaming (and worse if it's a woman speaking up).
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby Neko » Sat Jun 9, 15:04 2012

I unfortunately did read some of the comments and holy anti-semitism batman.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby lillerina » Sat Jun 9, 15:05 2012

Awesome that she surpassed her goal! And man, I guess it's really true what Sady Doyle said - geek boys really don't like it when other people don't like their toys.
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MPL: Help Fund Tropes vs Women in Video Games

Postby DruidX » Wed Jun 13, 13:18 2012

As a femgeek, and knowing that a fair few femgeeks lurk here too, I thought I would point y'all to this:
http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/0 ... deo-games/
I wouldn't recommend reading some of the comments on her other posts though, unless you feel like exploding in a ball of fiery rage.
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Re: MPL: Help Fund Tropes vs Women in Video Games

Postby rowan » Wed Jun 13, 13:36 2012

hehe dru this is the featured article on the main page right now. :P
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby lillerina » Wed Jun 13, 14:11 2012

Merged into the preexisting thread on tropes vs women in video games.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby Aum » Fri Jun 15, 18:29 2012

Wow, she has made over $150,000!! That's amazing. I really support this person in her educational campaigns. Her videos are second bar none and clearly a lot of peopel want it!
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby Eravial » Tue Jun 19, 14:18 2012

Jay Smooth nails it again.
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While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby Axiomatic » Wed Jun 20, 14:09 2012

I'm amazed by the internet's ability to harness spite as a positive force. Because let's face it, she didn't get 150000 dollars because her videos are just that good, she got that much money because giving it to her is a massive, glorious middle finger in the face of every misogynistic troll on the planet.

Oh, to taste their sweet tears of impotent rage as the kickstarter shot off into the stratosphere...
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Out of the depths came his last wail Delicious, and he was gone.
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Re: Shameless Feminist Promotion: Anita Sarkeesian - UPDATE!

Postby androkguz » Wed Jun 20, 21:57 2012

Axiomatic wrote:I'm amazed by the internet's ability to harness spite as a positive force. Because let's face it, she didn't get 150000 dollars because her videos are just that good, she got that much money because giving it to her is a massive, glorious middle finger in the face of every misogynistic troll on the planet.

Oh, to taste their sweet tears of impotent rage as the kickstarter shot off into the stratosphere...


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