Don't give your kids antidepressants.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby Aum » Wed Sep 14, 8:45 2016

There's very little evidence that SSRIs actually do what they claim to do and in fact a lot of growing evidence shows they can cause long-term harm. Suicidal people who take SSRIs are more likely to have worse suicidiality starting about 6 months in. For long term users, sudden cessation of the drug can initiate immediate withdrawal symptoms, which in turn can cause brain damage. (Lookup SSRI Discontinuation Syndrome, their fancy word to avoid calling it drug withdrawals.) Adolescents given SSRIs for longer than 6 months can have developmental abnormalities cognitively, especially pertaining to the limbic system. I should know, I was given SSRIs for 3 years as a teenager. How do you develop normal emotional rhythms if your emotions are shut off?

There's also no evidence that depression is caused by a "chemical imbalance", it's just one of those lines that doctors like to use and we're supposed to believe it because they're doctors. Nobody ever receives a neurochemistry diagnostic panel because they're uber expensive, there is no ideal time of day to test, and they stopped doing them wide scale years ago because there is no baseline reading to indicate "depression". Basically we are just prescribing SSRIs based on 35 year old research that has never had much follow up.

Most research shows that SSRIs, like benzos, are OK for short term crisis intervention in order to break the cycle, as long as it's accompanied by counseling of some kind. But the treatment success rate goes dowm after about 3-6 months.

I don't think we should tell people with mental health issues to just suck it up. That's not fair. We don't tell people with physical abilities to do that. Mental health is no different. But I think our treatment protocols are dubious, especially in national systems where mental health resources and institutions are declining in favour of pharmaco-psychology. People need the root causes of their depression addressed. Very few people are depressed for intractable reasons, like structural problems in their brains. Most people it's due to diet, stress, trauma, or lifestyle.
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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby rowan » Wed Sep 14, 11:03 2016

No. It is not "just all in the mind". What you are spouting is actively dangerous.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby Nech » Wed Sep 14, 11:43 2016

Where there's smoke, there's fire. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So just shut up, and bring some water.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby Enigma » Wed Sep 14, 11:50 2016

"Human beings are amazing... we might be horrible, horrible, but we're wonderful too. Otherwise, why go on?"

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby Nech » Wed Sep 14, 12:11 2016

Where there's smoke, there's fire. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So just shut up, and bring some water.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

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Where there's smoke, there's fire. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So just shut up, and bring some water.

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Bork is too lazy to bother thinking up a witty signature. :polarbear:

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby melsbells » Wed Sep 14, 14:42 2016

so neuropathy can only be a sign of health

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby Aum » Wed Sep 14, 16:40 2016

The artist's job is not to succumb to despair, but to find an antidote to the emptiness of existence. -W.A.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby Sonic# » Wed Sep 14, 17:22 2016

^ You were also demonstrated to be making it up. So it's a valid question to ask again.

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Re: Don't give your kids antidepressants.

Postby ladyhawk » Wed Sep 14, 18:17 2016

I'm blinded with science!

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