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Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby kelsa » Fri Oct 21, 1:00 2011

A little birdie told me I'd be getting an e-reader for Christmas and to pick out which one I wanted and relay it back to the bird so she could pass it on to the rest of the nest and obtain it.

I figured I'd want a kindle, but I'm not really sure which kind. And then reading about the battery life, with the two months being for a half hour of reading every day? Guys, I read for five or six hours a day. I forgo sleep to read. I endanger my relationship with my girlfriend to read. ("Honey, please put down that book so we can cuddle. No we can not cuddle around the book! Pay attention to me!" has happened more than once, I know.) I READ IN THE SHOWER (which is obviously not compatible with an e-reader.)

So what e reader do I want, looking only at battery life? What about if looking at battery life and color composition? (I get migraines and don't want one without good grayscale.)

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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby monk » Fri Oct 21, 1:11 2011

I havent gotten an ereader yet either, so I will be watching this thread closely.

but I do know one thing
kelsa wrote:I READ IN THE SHOWER (which is obviously not compatible with an e-reader.)


flat objects will fit nicely in a big ziplock bag and stay nice and dry, and it should be easier than a book to use since there are no pages to flip
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby Mathmo » Fri Oct 21, 5:21 2011

I have a kindle (got it in August) and haven't really looked around at other e-readers, so I can't compare them, but I can tell you about my experience.

Like you, I read a LOT. I haven't had any problems with the battery life. After all, 2 months at half an hour of reading every day is still 30 hours of battery life, right? So even if you read 6 hours a day that's charging it every 5 days (which is probably less often than a phone, right?). I charge mine when I remember, which is probably every couple of weeks - and that's always when I think "oh, I should probably charge that a bit", I've never had it run out of charge (having said that, I don't use it every day). You can also charge over USB, so if you're keeping it with you a lot you could plug it into your computer whenever you're there? (you can still use it while it's connected to your computer by telling it to eject from the computer).

What I've found is that although I still read scads of stuff, I still read a lot in good old-fashioned book form. The main reason I still read loads of books even though I have the kindle is that I try not to spend much money on books. So most of the stuff I read comes from libraries - public libraries for fiction, and university libraries for stuff I need for my course (and although there is some ability to get e-books out of libraries I haven't tried that yet). (I am very lucky in that at home I live 5 mins' walk from a library, though, so having that as my main source of reading matter is easy - I'm sure my habits would be different if the nearest library was an hour away.)

However, I also travel on trains a lot and that's one main time when I like to read on the kindle, because it's so much easier to carry. Carrying on with the theme of not spending money, I've been downloading classic stuff that's out of copyright (Sherlock Holmes! G K Chesterton! Shakespeare! ... okay, I've downloaded the shakespeare but not actually read it yet). The other thing I really love the kindle for is reading pdfs. The faculty I'm studying at has decided to go eco this year and make all the readings we need to do available in pdf form online, rather than giving us a physical reader like they did last year. Given that they did that, having the kindle is brilliant because it means I can send the pdfs to there for free, and then grab it and go and do my reading on the train - no faffing about with the printer (and fewer wasted trees - I'd only print out readings now if they were something I was really interested in and wanted to look into further). I expect I will start paying for books for the kindle at some point but haven't done so yet. I was tempted to buy the first 4 Song of Ice and Fire (George R R Martin) books for kindle - there's a thing where you can get all 4 of them for a pretty good price - but was put off by lots of reviews saying that the kindle version is really buggy (bad and confusing misspellings being very frequent, apparently).

I've found the screen resolution really really good - I'm quite picky about brightness of screens and that kind of thing and the kindle is SO MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE to read on than my laptop screen (even with my laptop screen at minimum brightness). It doesn't look really white, it's kind of very light gray as a background colour which is much more soothing. The best thing, of course, is to try and find a friend who has one / somewhere that sells them to go in and have a look for yourself.

I must admit I don't read in the shower (although I do read in the bath) and wouldn't read in the shower or bath on an electronic device because I wouldn't want to drop it. I would instead stick an audiobook on loud (usually with a separate speaker, so I can turn it up properly loud to be heard over the water). The kindle has an experimental text reader which is okay but not great (obviously, it can't put emotion in or things like that, and it doesn't deal too well with question marks. But you can get the gist of what's going on).

I have the Kindle Keyboard 3G (so it has 3G and wifi; I got it just before they started bringing out the new ones - well, and most of the new ones aren't available in the UK now anyway). I like the 3G because it means that I can download new books on a whim; I mostly asked for that one because I knew that money wasn't a big problem and figured that this future-proofs my kindle as much as possible. The main thing I use the keyboard for is for the experimental browser (although since I just got a blackberry that surfs the internet I won't be using this any more) and for searching for books. If you're not planning to download books when you're away from your computer I expect you wouldn't really need the keyboard.

Okay, I've written a lot ... I will stop there. Any questions though, just ask :)
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby Sonic# » Fri Oct 21, 7:46 2011

I endanger my relationship with my girlfriend to read. ("Honey, please put down that book so we can cuddle. No we can not cuddle around the book! Pay attention to me!" has happened more than once, I know.) I READ IN THE SHOWER (which is obviously not compatible with an e-reader.)


I like to imagine this would be what dating Isaac Asimov would be like. (Actually, this did seem to happen, only with his typewriter instead. Sorry, apparently I just really want to spoon Isaac Asimov today.)

As far as battery life, my friends with a Nook and my friends with a Kindle seem to get about the same battery life, and the Sony Reader gets a life of about 1 month (which I'm assuming presumes the same amount of use). I've used a Kindle some, when I borrowed it from my Mom, and I liked it for pleasure-reading.

Really, from what I've been able to tell, the Nook and the Kindle are very similar devices, save perhaps for the exact formats that each one reads. Where do you imagine that you would mainly get e-books?
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby Mathmo » Fri Oct 21, 9:40 2011

I went and looked at the various Kindles a little bit on Amazon.com and it looks like they have differing battery lives - or at least the cheapest one ($79) only says it has a one-month 1/2 hour per day battery life. I think all the others say 2 month, but I haven't checked; I expect you'll want to before deciding!
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby Rainbow Dolphins » Fri Oct 21, 19:28 2011

I believe the Kindle is the only one that has that "e-ink" stuff, which is a lot easier on your eyes. If you have migrane troubles I would go for the Kindle. Reading on those kindles isn't like reading off of a screen at all, it's actually like reading off a printed page. And my mom puts hers in a ziploc bag and reads in the hot tub, it works pretty well, I reckon you could read in the shower.

If there is a Best Buy in your area, they usually have them on display, you could poke around on them and figure out which one you like better.
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby helium » Fri Oct 21, 19:34 2011

I have a Nook and I think it has e-ink? It doesn't have a digital screen for sure, and it's not backlit, you have to use another light source if you're reading in the dark. It's really easy on your eyes, but it did take me a few times to get used to the page changing speed. Honestly I don't use it a ton, it was given to me for Christmas last year and I only pull it out when I want something on it or when I'm going on a trip and don't want to bring a ton of books. The battery life is pretty good, I think I charged it maybe once a month when I was using it frequently over the summer, and it stays charged without being plugged in for a long time. I'm a pretty terrible e-book owner.
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby monk » Fri Oct 21, 21:16 2011

refurbished nooks with color can be found here at a reasonable price but I don't know if they're better or worse than a kindle.

I am afraid of barnes & noble because of the whole book store disappearing thing. This may or may not be a rational fear.
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby superexcellently » Mon Oct 24, 3:11 2011

All I know is that I never leave the house without my kindle, plus mine has music on, so when walking I use it for that. Battery life is awesome as long as you keep the wireless/3G switched off when you're not using it. Even with listening to music and reading when on the train and on my break at work it my battery lasts about a week and a half - better than any mp3 player.

As for Nooks, I've never used one so I can't comment.
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Re: Kindle, Nook, oh my?!

Postby ladyhawk » Tue Oct 25, 14:21 2011

I used to work at Barnes & Noble when they first started selling Nooks. To be honest, it really isn't very different from a Kindle. And a Kindle is A LOT cheaper. The last I heard, Nooks were selling for over $200 each. You may not care, because someone else is buying it for you, but it's something to think about.
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