What have I uncovered?

[lykin005]

OK so I recently found out for sure what I had suspected for a while. My dad can't stand "Women's rights." He literally a few minutes ago now started ranting about some women I didn't recognize on the view today. I asked him what she did and he said she was a women's rights activist. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and asked him what kind of things she said. He then mentioned something called (I'm likely not spelling this right or something because I searched it on google in several variations and found nothing.) glorious dynum. That's probably spelled wrong or maybe not even quite the right words. Anyway I was like "Waaaaahhhh?" I asked what the hell that was and dad started to say something then mom said something and dad walked off in a huff, mom rolled her eyes. What the hell is glorious dynum? And why is my dad so pissed about? Also how can I approach my dad and likely my brother about this kinda stuff to change their minds? I think they would be open if I could show them in a way that was non-accusatory. I think I should start with showing how the kyriarchy hurts men and then when they see that move on to how it affects others.

[Ama]

It seems very likely that he was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem so I would start by reading that!

[rowan]

Oohh she spoke at an event I was at. She was incredibly smart and really awesome. I do have one book by her, I should read it again. When I first tried it was hard to get into.

[Aum]

Conservative culture hates feminism. Anytime I've spoken about a women's rights issue in any forum that is dominated by conservative men, I immediately become a pariah. Especially in the U.S., women's rights have become synonymous with "those liberal socialists" and partisan politics automatically align conservatives against it.

It's a shame that people's ability to critically evaluate ideas is now determined by where their political loyalties reside, and not based on the merits of individual arguments.

[Amuro]

She has aid some pretty controversial stuff from time to time. But she did apologize for it.

[lykin005]

Wow! I really thought I had uncovered the real life version of the majestic 12 or something. I heard them say that and I was like Glorious Dynum? What, is that latin?! Lol, indeed it was Gloria Steinem. I recognize the woman on the view as Jane Fonda who cofounded the Women's Media Center along with Gloria Steinem and Robin Morgan.

[edit the sad parts]

OK so I recently found out for sure what I had suspected for a while. My dad can't stand "Women's rights." He literally a few minutes ago now started ranting about some women I didn't recognize on the view today. I asked him what she did and he said she was a women's rights activist. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and asked him what kind of things she said. He then mentioned something called (I'm likely not spelling this right or something because I searched it on google in several variations and found nothing.) glorious dynum. That's probably spelled wrong or maybe not even quite the right words. Anyway I was like "Waaaaahhhh?" I asked what the hell that was and dad started to say something then mom said something and dad walked off in a huff, mom rolled her eyes. What the hell is glorious dynum? And why is my dad so pissed about? Also how can I approach my dad and likely my brother about this kinda stuff to change their minds? I think they would be open if I could show them in a way that was non-accusatory. I think I should start with showing how the kyriarchy hurts men and then when they see that move on to how it affects others.

And I mean, LMAO.

[rowan]

Wow! I really thought I had uncovered the real life version of the majestic 12 or something. I heard them say that and I was like Glorious Dynum? What, is that latin?!

lol!

And why is my dad so pissed about? Also how can I approach my dad and likely my brother about this kinda stuff to change their minds?

This is a good set of questions though. Maybe if you could figure out what he's so pissed about, it would be easier to approach them about things?

[lykin005]

Well when he was a kid he was sent to some sort of camp for kids run by one of the more popular conspiracy theorists. I can't remember his name but he's like reeeeaaallly nuts. Anyway his step-dad is also really into conspiracy's and stuff so he grew up with this stuff hardcore thrown down his throat. I suspect if I could show him something that made it's point really quickly and didn't blame men he would be open to it. I mean his whole life he's said that a rapist should be punished by having an ape rape them. I talked to him about the different ways of looking at justice and he was really open to it. I think he was just told a bunch of lies and bullshit about feminism and it's goals his whole life and so he won't even take a real look at it.

[monk]

All I can say is that when you get ready to present your argument to your dad don't start it with " I was talking with some people on the internet...".